tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17823979.post5353174128634779335..comments2023-09-29T05:03:51.672-04:00Comments on DivByZero.com: Download Stats & Missing Datanickbhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09200865148587349560noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17823979.post-22209854616924132132009-02-06T11:40:00.000-05:002009-02-06T11:40:00.000-05:00Why I prefer zips over update?- Update "pollu...Why I prefer zips over update?<BR/><BR/>- Update "pollutes" my installation. <BR/>+ With zips I can install it easily into extension locations.<BR/><BR/>- With update it is very difficult to have different eclipse versions sharing the same plugins (I know that is a p2 promise, but I have not been able to figure out how to use that)<BR/>+ With extension locations I can have different eclipses sharing the same plugins <BR/><BR/>- If I update to a newer version, then the old plugin files are still in my installation directory. <BR/>+ With extension zips + extension location I can throw away old stuff easily<BR/><BR/>- When some dependencies are not resolvable, update refuses to update (which means: it forces me to install things in a particular order, or at least I have to add all update sites in the beginning). <BR/>+ With zip that's not a problem. Some features might not work, but once the dependencies are there it works.<BR/><BR/>- The features in update manager are to fine granular and often the names of the features are too cryptic (they make only sense to experts): it is hard to figure out what I want. <BR/>--> Zips usually contain a meaningful set of features<BR/><BR/>- With update it is tricky to uninstall a set of features<BR/>+ With zips + extension location I can rename or delete the extension location and it disappears <BR/><BR/>- If eclipse does not start because of some problems with some plugins (this happens to me regularly with the ccrc (clear case remote client)) I cannot start eclipse until I have disabled the plugins. Well, using the update manager requires to start eclipse....<BR/>+ with zips and extension locations<BR/>I can easily disable some plugins temporarily by renaming the extension locationMichael Scharfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16708708879318235495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17823979.post-34738447257868532552009-02-05T17:06:00.000-05:002009-02-05T17:06:00.000-05:00I personally still get zips, and combine myself es...I personally still get zips, and combine myself especially when rebuilding a new eclispe configuration. In fact, I use a custom CEB builder script that will go and pull all the zips down for the various plugins I use and build a complete customized version of eclipse on any of the platforms I need. It takes a total of 20 minutes to complete. P2 could be used, but zips are just easier to work with at this time. Less setup and it doesn't require relying on anything but ANT and ZIP.David Carverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09341170413510029324noreply@blogger.com