tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17823979.post2036591351038515779..comments2023-09-29T05:03:51.672-04:00Comments on DivByZero.com: Synch View Magicnickbhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09200865148587349560noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17823979.post-18523510947356899852008-04-28T12:09:00.000-04:002008-04-28T12:09:00.000-04:00@Nick: "There's nothing to alt-click on, just whit...@Nick: "There's nothing to alt-click on, just white space."<BR/>You can alt-click on the whitespace (anywhere).<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, you're right that it works like this only for projects as top level elements and not working sets (I don't use them, so that's why I couldn't understand your problem), but this is definitely a bug, it's not supposed to work differently from projects as top level elements.<BR/><BR/>I'm quite sure this is some kind of regression, I believe it used to work for working sets as well (alt-clicking in the white space to show top level elements).<BR/><BR/>Bugzilla seems to be up again, the issue is already reported as <A HREF="https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=222057" REL="nofollow">222057 - Alt-clicking doesn't work in Package Explorer when Top Level Elements are Working Sets</A>.<BR/><BR/>I don't have an opinion if your approach on filtering would be better, I'm used to alt-clicking the whitespace.Kim Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16393200918173445703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17823979.post-8205241659150877302008-04-28T11:26:00.000-04:002008-04-28T11:26:00.000-04:00@Kim: Because I use Working Sets as my Top Level E...@Kim: Because I use Working Sets as my Top Level Elements, when I enable a new task, my Package Explorer goes from full of 12 Working Sets to utterly blank. There's nothing to alt-click on, just white space. (This doesn't seem to happen if I use Projects instead, but I have over 100 projects so I need Working Sets.)<BR/><BR/>So, with every activated new task, I have to turn off Focus on Active Task, select some files, and then turn it back on. From there, right-arrow does the trick.<BR/><BR/>I would argue that the better way, when starting a new task w/ an empty context, would be to NOT turn on filtering. Instead, show me a notification popup after a couple minutes reminding me to turn on filtering, once I've defined a context and some "interesting" files. <BR/><BR/>Or, make the 'Auto focus navigator views on task activation' preference configurable to either a time delay or # of interesting items. I could see a useful threshhold being between 1 and 5 minutes or 1 and 5 items.nickbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09200865148587349560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17823979.post-23227524018702314072008-04-28T11:07:00.000-04:002008-04-28T11:07:00.000-04:00@Nick - Alt-clicking with the mouse in the empty p...@Nick - Alt-clicking with the mouse in the empty package explorer view unfilters the top level elements, either projects or working sets.<BR/><BR/>But if you depend on the keyboard to unfilter things, it's probably impossible to unfilter the "root" elements because there's nothing to focus the keyboard on...<BR/><BR/>I agree that there should be a way to unfilter the root elements with the keyboard as well, so that people who don't use the mouse (or aren't willing to give up alt-click on linux for eclipse) don't have to turn off context filtering for the whole view.<BR/><BR/>Or have I misunderstood, and Mylyn filters the whole workspace including views, so the views <I>themselves</I> are hidden, not just their contents? It's never done that for me, activating a task just hides the contents, but keeps the perspective intact.Kim Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16393200918173445703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17823979.post-88295729585201574812008-04-28T10:41:00.000-04:002008-04-28T10:41:00.000-04:00@Kim: How can you alt-click a completely empty (en...@Kim: How can you alt-click a completely empty (entirely filtered) workspace? <BR/><BR/>(BTW, on my KDE-running linux, ctrl-right-arrow, shift-right-arrow, and alt-left-arrow all work to expand a filtered folder's children).<BR/><BR/>@Denis: Just trying to give props to Mondo for their great work.nickbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09200865148587349560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17823979.post-58175772449690275952008-04-28T09:12:00.000-04:002008-04-28T09:12:00.000-04:00Re:5 - you don't actually have to unfilter the vie...Re:5 - you don't actually have to unfilter the view, just use alt-click to progressively unfilter the things you need. I actually prefer this to ufiltering everything, because "everything" can be quite overwhelming.<BR/><BR/>It's a bit more of a problem on linux than windows, since some linux window managers use alt-click to move windows (yes, there's a bug filed, but I don't think it will be possible to resolve because there just aren't enough modifiers for everything).<BR/><BR/>And there used to be problem when opening a file when using alt-click unfiltering (when you tried to doubleclick, mylyn started filtering faster than you could finish the doubleclick). This is also filed on bugzilla somewhere, maybe even resolved (lately, I haven't been able to track Mylyn development as closely as I would like)Kim Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16393200918173445703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17823979.post-7883886136184256092008-04-28T08:38:00.000-04:002008-04-28T08:38:00.000-04:00I like your 'used without permission' honesty. Oh...I like your 'used without permission' honesty. Oh, and BTW, it's 'tireless webmaster[]'. I[] have exposed my collective long ago.Denis Royhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01676734059820252000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17823979.post-41388871735518544712008-04-27T20:07:00.000-04:002008-04-27T20:07:00.000-04:00Here's another trick to make files disappear from ...Here's another trick to make files disappear from the Synchronize view:<BR/><BR/>https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=212922steffenpingelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02774111206551614004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17823979.post-89333535264169914442008-04-27T10:42:00.000-04:002008-04-27T10:42:00.000-04:00Wau Nick! That is what I call detailed description...Wau Nick! That is what I call detailed description. :)Eugene Kuleshovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08736056465101896635noreply@blogger.com